tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1958522416503442248.post688678282500635346..comments2024-03-28T01:02:01.844-06:00Comments on Coins and Scrolls: Converting 5E to OSRSkerpleshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06393779599461560431noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1958522416503442248.post-5218991992232451232018-08-26T19:29:33.339-06:002018-08-26T19:29:33.339-06:00I find with 5e and using OSR adventures, it's ...I find with 5e and using OSR adventures, it's not the big picture but the particulars that will trip you up. The ranger can trivialize any wilderness exploration for the party by level 5. If you nerf the rangers ability without anything else though, you're nerfing one of the weakest classes in the game. Lesser restoration means disease becomes an easy to handle threat at level 3 rather than at level 5. Diseases in general are much weaker. Short rests radically alter the way attrition works and the time limits on things like torches, spells, resting, etc. aren't designed with ease of use for strict time keeping like you would in OSR games. As well, the movement rates, time to do an action, etc. aren't designed to neatly interact with resources for a time management minigame that's central to OSR dungeon crawling. <br />I'm a big fan of 5e and it does its heroic fantasy gaming well but just focusing on the big things is going to simply make a more high lethality and treasure hunter focused version of 5e rather than a real OSR game.Oswaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07001773664829033815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1958522416503442248.post-43785009583046558782018-08-26T18:28:57.153-06:002018-08-26T18:28:57.153-06:00Wait, the link was to the PDF directly, not to the...Wait, the link was to the PDF directly, not to the blog post. Fixed it!Skerpleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06393779599461560431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1958522416503442248.post-57897295553145215912018-08-26T18:27:59.821-06:002018-08-26T18:27:59.821-06:00I... did?I... did?Skerpleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06393779599461560431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1958522416503442248.post-20547594882785739602018-08-25T12:46:42.006-06:002018-08-25T12:46:42.006-06:00If you're going to link to my stuff give my bl...If you're going to link to my stuff give my blog a shout out tooLuke Gearinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01560869081440423091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1958522416503442248.post-88644168695487510602018-08-23T10:32:37.959-06:002018-08-23T10:32:37.959-06:00I do take your point Skerples. That said, my playe...I do take your point Skerples. That said, my players were used to getting progressively better; just for levelling up...so I wanted to keep that element. Also, it's just fun... cobbling it all together. The big D&D logo, shiny-shiny, etc... got a bunch of people interested, who I think otherwise might not have been (hipsters, musicians, festival people---no prior gaming background). <br /><br />Also, yes Ancalagon 3d6 in order. I did allow the concession of re-rolling net negative stat arrays. <br /><br />Just for the record, I've been running LL with the same group and it's going very smoothly indeed. Nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10092002529591261902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1958522416503442248.post-33929220461466874782018-08-23T07:57:55.054-06:002018-08-23T07:57:55.054-06:00Thanks, yeah no problem. At some point I realized ...Thanks, yeah no problem. At some point I realized I added about as much text as I was cribbing, so figured I shouldn't give myself such subtle billing.David Perryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07628991184561866521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1958522416503442248.post-3128839447583564602018-08-23T00:02:56.758-06:002018-08-23T00:02:56.758-06:00At that point, what's left?
Just joking. I...At that point, what's left? <br />Just joking. I'm still not entirely sold on 5E's progression system and builds matching with the OSR style, but given the other changes listed, it's probably a negligible issue.Skerpleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06393779599461560431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1958522416503442248.post-85397268324946318932018-08-22T22:32:08.349-06:002018-08-22T22:32:08.349-06:00Will do! Wasn't sure how to credit, but I'...Will do! Wasn't sure how to credit, but I'll add everyone on the title page.Skerpleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06393779599461560431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1958522416503442248.post-2309317593356207332018-08-22T22:18:03.887-06:002018-08-22T22:18:03.887-06:00Oh and just roll stats in order and again, that...Oh and just roll stats in order and again, that's 50% of the old school game (ie you don't "choose" your class by putting the best stats where you want)<br />Ancalagon_TBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13602961033235852856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1958522416503442248.post-64734246386292007632018-08-22T22:03:02.875-06:002018-08-22T22:03:02.875-06:00Yup - Only a few changes bring you 50% to OSR... ...Yup - Only a few changes bring you 50% to OSR... a lot of it is about the philosophy of adventure design, and that's not that system dependent. Ancalagon_TBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13602961033235852856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1958522416503442248.post-33715517782181231782018-08-22T16:53:35.970-06:002018-08-22T16:53:35.970-06:00Re: 5) that's with conversions from OSR stuff...Re: 5) that's with conversions from OSR stuff. Nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10092002529591261902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1958522416503442248.post-56427935095741622722018-08-22T16:52:43.716-06:002018-08-22T16:52:43.716-06:00Still have 5e game running, it's been 100% OSR...Still have 5e game running, it's been 100% OSR by my reckoning:<br /><br />1) LotFP encumberance, LotFP xp awards for monsters (I award for stuff survived, not killed), everyone uses cleric xp advancement table. <br /><br />2) Last Gasp rules for Magic users and clerics. <br /><br />3) Roll on death & dismemberment at 0hp. Instant death if damage exceeds hp 0-CON.<br /><br />4) Group initiative. <br /><br />5) Keep 1 HD and 2 HD monsters the same. Double HD of everything else. Double damage too, most of the time. <br /><br />6) Roll on DCC alternate careers instead of backgrounds.<br /><br />7) Slow heal variant from DMG<br /><br />8) no feats. <br /><br />Nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10092002529591261902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1958522416503442248.post-32475183632667124972018-08-22T10:27:47.599-06:002018-08-22T10:27:47.599-06:00I'm running a 5e game, which I've glued a ...I'm running a 5e game, which I've glued a lot of OSR content onto. <br /><br />XP is mostly from treasure (50 xp per HD of enemies murdered, but it doesn't add up to much unless there's a LOT of blood)<br /><br />PCs are tougher than OSR characters, but they sometimes die ignoble deaths. One long-running character recently died unexpectedly in a hole in the ground when he poked the wrong puddle and got eaten by an ooze. I think he was seventh level? And the entire party had just finished a months-long ship expedition off the edge of the map, partly because of his 'epic quest' he was trying to complete. And now they're stuck on the Isle of Dread, with half the reason they came missing.<br /><br />I use the Death and Dismemberment rules from hack and slash/ ten foot polemic, pretty much as-is. I recently wrote up a 'psychic damage' extension to it, since psychic attacks seem to be common in the game. <br /><br />Players are encouraged to have alternate characters ready to go. New characters start at level 5 (I know I know), so players frequently play with their alternates, so if their 'main' dies, they're not too far behind in level. It's fairly organic, they spend a lot of time on the same ship, so they switch back and forth, or double up for adventures on occasion.<br /><br />One of the player's alternate is Many Goblins. I uh... didn't really convert this to 5e. I'm just using 'em as-is from this blog. It works well enough for an alternate, but if they ever became a main character I might haveta tweak it.Ezra Bloomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00435485772787008909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1958522416503442248.post-73789137214014842032018-08-22T08:06:29.735-06:002018-08-22T08:06:29.735-06:00There's a new, super secret preview version of...There's a new, super secret preview version of Principia Apocrypha here https://drive.google.com/open?id=1HEYO4a3AwQEZ29pjaPKPyQCip8PwSeodAZtmtKfZ2X4<br />I'd also really appreciate my name in front of it with Ben and Steven's. Thanks!David Perryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07628991184561866521noreply@blogger.com